[82061] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Edward Lewis)
Fri Jul 8 15:43:13 2005
In-Reply-To: <6C6003E6-684F-4301-ADC6-453C3D2E9564@muada.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:55:43 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz>
Cc: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
At 19:23 +0200 7/6/05, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
With the chicken little-ing again...
>You are approaching the problem at the wrong end by asking "what's in it for
>me to adopt IPv6 now". The real question is "is IPv6 inevitable in the long
>run".
Pardon my skepticism, but I recall hearing about the coming of the
world due to pollution in the 1970's and the end of the oil supply by
the 1980's. (E.g., see http://www.ncpa.org/pub/bg/bg159/ for a
discussion on the latter, albeit written before the most recent oil
'scare.')
The point isn't whether IPv6 is good or not - it's that long-range
predictions are often wrong. For every "memex"
(http://www.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0051.html) there's an oil
crisis, Ada, GOSIP, economic default of New York City (Ford to City:
Drop Dead! - NY Daily News, Oct 30, 1975)...
>So by all means, be an IPv6 hold out as long as you like, but don't assume
>that just because adopting IPv6 doesn't make economic sense for you now, it
>isn't going to happen at some point in the next decade. No rush, though.
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0405/augmentation.html
Been there, done that, documented and shared results. (Yes, got the
T-Shirt too. It was a NANOG, after all.) That wasn't even the first
go-round I had with IPv6.
My experiences were that IPv6 was painful - I ran into a lot of
application bugs, OS's didn't deal with it well, and the ISP's were
tough to deal with - as in, not many suppliers, not enough expertise
to deliver on promises.
Maybe things are better now (note the use of past tense in the
previous paragraph), I don't deal with IPv6 at this time.
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