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Re: Fundamental changes to Internet architecture

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lixia Zhang)
Fri Jul 1 11:56:26 2005

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Cc: nanog@merit.edu
From: Lixia Zhang <lixia@CS.UCLA.EDU>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:56:00 -0700
To: Simon Waters <simonw@zynet.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:29 AM, Simon Waters wrote:

> On Friday 01 Jul 2005 11:28 am, Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess I'm not the only one who thinks that we could benefit from  
>> some
>> fundamental changes to Internet architecture.
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,68004,00.html? 
>> tw=wn_6techhea
>> d
>>
>> Dave Clark is proposing that the NSF should fund a new demonstration
>> network that implements a fundamentally new architecture at many  
>> levels.
>>
>
> '"Look at phishing and spam, and zombies, and all this crap," said  
> Clark.
> "Show me how six incremental changes are going to make them go away."'
>
> Well I suppose it is a good sales pitch, but I'm not terribly sure  
> that these
> are a network layer problems.

Good point.

However a network architecture is not limited to network layer only  
(at least in classroom network architecture goes from physical to  
application layers)
I hope that figuring out which layers should hold what  
responsibilities would be one of the questions to clarify in this re- 
examination of network architecture effort.


> We could move to a network layer with more security that makes it  
> impossible
> for network carriers to identify or intercept such dross, which  
> might at
> least deal with the crowd who think "filter port 25 outgoing" is  
> the solution
> to all the Internets woes ;)
>


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