[81788] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: ATM
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher L. Morrow)
Wed Jun 29 15:14:41 2005
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:14:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>
In-reply-to: <01EB7C28E9DF0B4FBD67D44A32F7428354D915@sandcaexch01.pcipros.net>
To: James Laszko <james@pcipros.com>
Cc: Jason Frisvold <xenophage0@gmail.com>,
Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>,
Philip Lavine <source_route@yahoo.com>, nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, James Laszko wrote:
> Most MPLS networks use a combination of point to point, frame and ATM
> facilities as the infrastructure. The phone companies use ATM just
> about everywhere to deliver voice across their networks. I don't see
> ATM/FR equipment being EOL'd anytime in the near future.
>
really, that is interesting.
>
>
> James Laszko
> Pipeline Communications, Inc.
> james@pcipros.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Christopher L. Morrow
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Jason Frisvold
> Cc: Petri Helenius; Philip Lavine; nanog
> Subject: Re: ATM
>
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Jason Frisvold wrote:
>
> >
> > On 6/29/05, Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi> wrote:
> > > Maybe the small fact that ATM is fading away and building new
> networks
> > > with technology going away is going to explode your operational cost
> in
> > > a few years time. Business grade IP networks will provide you with
> equal
> > > if not better performance than a "dedicated" ATM WAN.
> >
> > And being replaced with .... ? GigE? DPT/RPR? MPLS?
> >
> > ATM is a great technology... Unfortunately, I don't think it was ever
> > fully utilized.. From what I understand, MPLS takes some of the good
> > bits and combines it with traditional routing.. But I don't see a lot
> > of MPLS implementations either...
>
> look to the private networks luke... Seriously, many large private
> ATM/Frame networks are transitioning to MPLS networks because the ATM or
> Frame gear is/was/will-be-shortly EOL/EOS from the vendors. The costs to
> run these networks don't jibe well with the alternatives.
>
> Now, start the discussion on: "private network" and "mpls vpn" and
> "oops,
> hey, that runs over the same routers as that bad-old Internet thing with
> the haxors and such!"
>
> :)
>
