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Re: Localized mail servers, global scope

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Crocker)
Thu Jun 23 09:52:58 2005

Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:50:13 -0700
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
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Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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> I don't have the answers but I think the 10 years of
> failure to put a dent in spam have shown beyond the
> shadow of a doubt that Internet email is broken by
> design and bandaids are not going to fix this, no matter
> how many different bandaids are applied. It is time
> to re-engineer with the benefit of hindsight.

ready, fire, aim.

we aren't hitting the target.  the gun must be broken.

couldn't be that we have lousy eyesight.  or that the ground is shaking.


folks...

when we look at email as a complex human communication service, and we explain 
spam as an intrusion into the model of using that service constructively, and 
we can formulate reasonable models of "repair" that do not break the broad 
utility of service, and we find that we cannot engineer changes to the 
existing service  to implement these human-level "repairs", THEN it will be 
time to consider "re-engineering" email.

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