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Re: More long AS-sets announced

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jerry Pasker)
Tue Jun 21 02:19:02 2005

In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0506210807580.32450@efes.iucc.ac.il>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:15:56 -0500
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Jerry Pasker <info@n-connect.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Hank wrote:

>
>
>Wrong again.  You used both AS1221 and AS2121:
>

I logged pretty much the same thing with max-as limit 
blocking/logging the announcements (of course, the paths, and time 
stamp seconds are  different, YMMV)   Perhaps the unforeseen 
technical difficulties have something to do with not sticking to the 
original plan?  Announce something different to get around filters, 
and thus, detect who put filters in place?  Or more innocent..... 
maybe fat fingers, or copy/paste gone horribly wrong?

Doesn't really matter what happened though, because a controlled 
announce is a lot better than a malicious one. Since a stupid person 
is the most dangerous type of person (fifth basic law of human 
stupidity), a malicious  announcement is even safer than a clueless 
one.  I'd much rather see this done by someone with clue that's going 
to announce and withdraw them, then check for damage, than by someone 
that might not know what the heck they're doing.  If there is damage, 
we'll all hear about it, and figure out how to stop it in the future 
when someone else tries to be malicious.  Or when someone else is 
just plain clueless.

Apparently that's not the case since this whole experiment was so 
disruptive that it took 16 hours for someone to notice and point out 
on NANOG that it neither did nor did not go off as previously 
announced.

(I'm guilty of looking it over in the logs, and not even noticing the 
difference between 2121 and 1221)

The internet is our playground... can't we just all get along?  If 
someone's going to load 50 kids on a merry-go-round, and get 50 more 
kids to push it.... I'll just stand over by the monkey bars and try 
to avoid the flying vomit.  :-)

-Jerry

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