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Re: IP->Country Data (RE: ISP's Contact List)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (william(at)elan.net)
Mon Jun 13 18:48:41 2005

Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william@elan.net>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <E9E0164C-29DC-45AD-90B3-5E7FEE51F4AD@ianai.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



> Too bad no one has servers in 100s or even a 1000 or more ISPs in 
> dozens of countries with TCP connections to a statistically significant 
> portion of the Internet on a daily basis who could possibly measure, 
> say, RTT (not sure why TTL is relevant) and other things, and perhaps 
> use that along with other information to create a database that they 
> could then give to customers who need geo-location data for their 
> "mission critical" applications.

Unless I'm mistaken you do (or at least as close to it as anygone got)
and that is one of the basis of your service!

> That would probably be pretty darned accurate.

The point is it probably would not be as accurate as one could hope
because internet network infrastructure is network-centric and not 
necessarily region-based. Of course you could try to fully map INET
like CAIDA does and keep the info updated on "daily basis", pretty
hard work though...

> Of course, that would be a "commercial service".... =)

Certainly having to support machine on every large network in every
city is rather troublesome otherwise. Of course this is probably
way overkill for IP->Country data.

-- 
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william@elan.net

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