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Outage queries and notices (was Re: GBLX congestion in Dallas area)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay R. Ashworth)
Wed Jun 8 10:38:52 2005

Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:38:23 -0400
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050607183308.01c4d968@gold.dbscom.com>; from Dave Stewart <dbs@dbscom.com> on Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:40:10PM -0400
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:40:10PM -0400, Dave Stewart wrote:
> At 06:12 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:
> >If we started posting about every fiber cut of every carrier anywhere in
> >North America every time it happened there wouldn't be any room left on
> >this list for talking about spam, senderid, DNS RFCs, E911 for VoIP
> >carriers, err... wait which side am I arguing again? :)
> 
> I don't operate even a mid-size network, but when there's an outage that 
> effects more than a handful of locations, it's useful to know about it...
> 
> Not that there's anything I can do about it... but when customers are 
> calling and asking why they can't reach their application servers, it's 
> nice to be able to tell them there's a problem at $location and that no, I 
> don't know when it'll be fixed, but they can be sure it's being worked on.
> 
> But I think NANOG is certainly an appropriate forum for medium/large-scale 
> outages - unless someone's created an outage list someplace.

From down here, like Dave, at the relative bottom of the food chain, I
must agree with him and Steve, though I do understand Richard's
concerns there, and they're valid ones.

The Internet needs a PA system.

Problem is, the people who are equipped to talk, and, by and large,
many of the people who want to listen, are all *here*.

Cheers,
-- jra
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