[81227] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon is easily fooled by spamming zombies
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Wed Jun 1 13:52:56 2005
In-Reply-To: <429DE785.6080405@linuxbox.org>
Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:52:20 -0400
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Jun 1, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
>> If the ISP wants to use SMTP AUTH or other mechanisms to lower abuse,
>> that's fine. But to say "only allow ISP.net from addresses - but
>> allow
>> them from anywhere on the 'Net" is kinda ... silly.
>>
>
> No, it makes perfect sense but that is the one thing I fear we'll have
> to agree to disagree on.
I fear you will have to agree to disagree with just about anyone who
runs a large mail server.
>> The solution presented here is not only not a solution, it is also a
>> problem.
>>
>
> Okay, then I suppose I don't understand the problem. How exactly do
> you
> mean?
1) It is not a solution because it does not stop spam. In fact, it
is easier to send spam through VZ's mail servers than just about
anyone else's.
2) It is a problem because they do not allow things almost every
other ISP does - things which are "standard" and things for which the
anti-spam community has been fighting to put in place for many years.
--
TTFN,
patrick
