[81041] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: soBGP deployment
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Tue May 24 00:29:32 2005
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 04:28:59 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: Geoff Huston <cidr-report@potaroo.net>,
Bill Manning <bmanning@ep.net>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <17042.39471.409832.203918@roam.psg.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:06:23PM -0400, Randy Bush wrote:
> >> I suspect the right thing to do is to ask why soBGP and sBGP
> >> have failed?
> > Or maybe, jut maybe, because we've never had the tools to deploy
> > it.
>
> actually, we had a small workshop with sbgp tools at the last
> eugene nanog. perhaps it's time for another? bill, can you host
> at he next nanog, as it is on your turf?
sure... point me in the right direction :)
> but, of course, for real deployment, those tools, built for *bsd
> and linux, would limit initial deployment to those running pc-based
> routers. to go futher, we would need support from juniper and
> other vendors.
yes... but it is possible to get the ISP engineering
crews to "kick the tyres" w/ generic platforms.
> i receive a bgp announcement from a new peer, but the announcement
> was originated two weeks ago (shockers! a stable route); was the
> asserted path to my new peer valid when the announcement was
> originated two weeks ago? once your mind starts down such paranoid
> paths, the void opens before one's eyes.
surrender!
>
> randy
