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Re: Verisign broke GTLDs again?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Florian Weimer)
Mon May 16 12:07:10 2005

From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:05:11 +0200
In-Reply-To: <4288B064.7080205@tls.msk.ru> (Michael Tokarev's message of "Mon,
	16 May 2005 18:38:28 +0400")
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


* Michael Tokarev:

>> EDNS0 can be easily abused for traffic amplication purposes. 8-(
>
> Root and TLD nameservers rarely have large answers to queries to
> exceed 512 bytes.

The miscreants have partial write access to most TLD zones, so they
can create record sets whose size approaches or exceeds 512 bytes.

>(And for those rare cases if they exists, TCP
> connection should be established to get a reply --

This seems to be Verisign's intent, and yet you still complain.

> But this does not really matter.  I repeat: One don't have to
> "support" EDNS0, just don't report it as error,

EDNS0-capable resolvers typically cache the information that another
server doesn't support EDNS0.  Returning FORMERR is compliant with RFC
2671.

> like broken routers does with ECN.

IIRC, the complaint with respect to ECN was that some routers dropped
packets *without* signaling an error.

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