[80743] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a few years?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shaun Bryant)
Wed May 11 14:43:40 2005
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:43:54 -0600
From: "Shaun Bryant" <sbryant@thepit.org>
To: "Adam Jacob Muller" <adam@gotlinux.us>,
"Matt Bazan" <Mbazan@onelegal.com>
Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
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I have to second this one, having used Comcast and qwest. I look for the =
small guy, they have something to loss if I drop them and switch. I also =
like that I can drive down to there office and sit on someone's desk if =
I am not getting the service I want.
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Shaun
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From: owner-nanog@merit.edu on behalf of Adam Jacob Muller
Sent: Wed 5/11/2005 12:33 PM
To: Matt Bazan
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: what will all you who work for private isp's be doing in a =
few years?
It's simple,
A DSL provider like speakeasy offers much more to a technical user=20
like myself than Comcast does, plus they have an incentive to keep me=20
happy, if i'm not i can leave and go with a competitor, comcast does,=20
and has on many occasions, simply told me to go f*ck myself when i=20
have service issues. (Sorry your modem died sir, the next we can get=20
a tech out to your place is 2 weeks, when i don't need a tech I know=20
what it means when a modem has a failure code).
The fact is, DSL is a competitive market, Cable is not, competitive=20
markets keep customers happy, monopolies anger people.
Adam
On May 11, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Matt Bazan wrote:
>
> why in the world would anyone want to purchase dsl from a private
> reseller when i can get 4mb down 384 up from comcast for $25? =20
> think you
> dsl resellers out there are doomed. in fact, just a matter of time
> before most of you isps are down the toilet. im reminded of the=20
> mom and
> pop grocery store phenomenon that has now been replaced by the kohls,
> a&p, whole foods etc. of course there will always be niche markets=20
> but
> this is less applicable for a pure commodity like bandwidth. yeah, i
> suppose you'll say something about value added services and such=20
> and you
> may have a point but i doubt that will keep the ship afloat for long.
>
>
> !DSPAM:42824b1926542573616784!
>
>
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<P><FONT size=3D2>It's simple,<BR>A DSL provider like speakeasy offers =
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doomed. in fact, just a matter of time<BR>> before most of you =
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