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Re: Class "B" forsale (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Sun Mar 9 13:27:21 1997

Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:14:36 -0600
From: Karl Denninger  <karl@Mcs.Net>
To: Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.93.970309093415.3632A-100000@sidhe.memra.com>; from Michael Dillon on Sun, Mar 09, 1997 at 09:43:12AM -0800

On Sun, Mar 09, 1997 at 09:43:12AM -0800, Michael Dillon wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Brett L. Hawn wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote:
> > 
> > > >	The way I see it, it is worth no more than $10,000. As that is what
> > > >ARIN is going to charge any corp to get a Class B. 
> > > 
> > > How much is your time (spent making up and writing the justification for
> > > a class B) worth?
> > 
> > I think you miss my point, since the ARIN is for all intents and purposes
> > selling address space, who are they to say no? 
> 
> But ARIN is *NOT* selling address space. That is not the intent of ARIN
> nor is it the purpose of ARIN. With that thought in mind, try reading
> through the material at http://www.arin.net once again.
> 
> > doing, but I certainly can't say anything 'wrong' about it either.
> 
> Read RFC2050. It has this statement
> 
>    7.  The transfer of IP addresses from one party to another must be
>        approved by the regional registries.  The party trying to obtain
>        the IP address must meet the same criteria as if they were
>        requesting an IP address directly from the IR.

Read RFC2008:

Rekhter & Li             Best Current Practice                  [Page 5]
RFC 2008                                                    October 1996
 
 
   "address ownership" policy, the organization would be able to use
   these addresses to gain access to the Internet routing services,
   regardless of where the organization connects to the Internet.
 
   While it has never been explicitly stated that various Internet
   Registries use the "address ownership" allocation policy, it has
   always been assumed (and practiced).

Oh oh... :-)

For address space assigned, transferred or delegated prior to October 1996,
you've got a problem.

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