[80482] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: SMTP AUTH
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Sun May 1 23:38:54 2005
To: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
Cc: "Edward B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>,
"Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 01 May 2005 22:50:29 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:37:53 -0400
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 22:50:29 EDT, Dean Anderson said:
> But only 16 email clients (counting Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox
> separately), support SMTP AUTH. But there are more than 1000 different
> email client programs. If you go to Microcenter, you can buy several
> email client programs for windows, but only one (Outlook) supports SMTP
> AUTH.
Very interesting how those 16 clients have such a tiny market share, and the
other 984+ clients are all just piling up those sales. Do the numbers again,
looking at market share rather than numbers. I think you'll find that a bit
more than 0.16% of people have an AUTH-capable client.
(Hint - what percent of those other 984 clients are half-baked buggy pieces of
trash done by one guy who only half-understands how SMTP works? How many of
them qualify as abandonware? What sort of development efforts did those 16
have? What are the 3 biggest clients that do *NOT* have AUTH support? What do
these numbers tell you?)
> Your comparison is precious. Its a classic sort of statistical deception,
Pot. Kettle. Color comparison.
> at the extreme. With seat belts, there is mandated 100% compliance. With
The *point* that you're trying desperately to gloss over to save your position
is that if 99% of the target population has something, whether legally required
or not, you *CAN'T* introduce something that gets another 2% onboard that weren't
before.
Incidentally, there's no 100% mandated compliance for seat belts either -
there's *plenty* of vehicles still on the road without them (granted, most of
these either have 'Antique' tags on them or are painted National School Bus
Chrome (National Bureau of Standards Color #1305)...)
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