[80455] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: FCC To Require 911 for VoIP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hannigan, Martin)
Sun May 1 19:42:39 2005
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 19:39:37 -0400
From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
To: "Chris Boyd" <cboyd@gizmopartners.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Chris Boyd
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 6:42 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: FCC To Require 911 for VoIP
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> On May 1, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
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> > so, how does this work when you dial into the internet in=20
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> > DSL) in newark and the termination point for L3 is in Philadelphia?=20
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> > seems like more than 1sq mile...
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> In the dial up case, you could/should know the originating number, so=20
> location can be determined from that.
Right, this is standard CNAM/LIDB behavoir.=20
> In the DSL case, the ATM PVC can often be mapped back to a DSLAM port=20
> and thus a wire pair with a known termination.
Correct again, but there's still and assigned number isn't there? =20
The above would apply.
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> Whether the provisioning and management systems are up to the task of=20
> providing this information quickly enough for emergency services, I=20
> don't know.
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Now, as I understand it, the Pulver order[1], which makes voip companies
'information providers' may be at issue here. IANAL[2], so I can't speak =
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that, but as a CLEC, you have a right to access the E911 infrastructure.
To keep it simple, if you have a phone number, you have the capability
to ID the calling-station to EMS, except, if you have VOIP or cell, and=20
when E911 is turned on for VOIP, there may have to be some sort of =
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as to "stationary" like an ILEC ds0, or dynamic, like a cell phone. The
information has to be entered into the databases, and you have to have
the access to those databases.
I think you'll see voipco's rushing to insure e911 as a competitive
edge since it's somewhat of a roadblock, even if it's psychological.
There are other issues to grapple with related to full deployment
and acceptance beyond E911, but that would be a big step.
1. Talk to Jeff Pulver about the Pulver Order
2. IANAL =3D I am not a lawyer
Best,
Martin
