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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay R. Ashworth)
Sun May 1 12:22:47 2005

Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:22:21 -0400
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <576FBD610849A79EC025A592@imac-en0.delong.sj.ca.us>; from Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> on Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 03:13:06PM -0700
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 03:13:06PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Your statement that their price point is lower is absurd.  It costs money
> to put filters in place.  It doesn't cost money to not filter, except to
> the extent that irresponsible actions which filtration would prevent are
> not blocked.  Therefore, any increased costs in unfiltered connections
> are the direct result of irresponsible use.  Absent irresponsible use,
> unfiltered connections will, by definition, cost less.

In this context, Owen, why isn't that a circular argument?

Cheers,
-- jra
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