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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Thu Apr 28 10:14:50 2005

In-Reply-To: <Pine.CYG.4.58.0504280854220.3260@citabria>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:10:54 +0200
To: Adi Linden <adil@adis.on.ca>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On 28-apr-2005, at 16:01, Adi Linden wrote:

> When I sign up for an internet account, does the fine print say  
> that I am
> to accept all garbage pouring out of the RJ-45...? Why should it be  
> the
> recipients job to filter all incoming traffic?

Because by definition the recipient is the party who receives  
something...

And what about garbage pouring out of RJ-11 sockets?

> When my PC grabs an IP address, I'd expect to see zero traffic from  
> the
> world unless I make a request for content. Only then should I see  
> traffic
> and only the content I requested.

So I do I obtain your permission to send you a packet?

And where in the packet does it show that the packet comes from  
someone who has said permission?

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