[80284] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Paul Wilson and Geoff Huston of APNIC on IP address allocation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex Bligh)
Thu Apr 28 05:03:44 2005
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:00:10 +0100
From: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Reply-To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>,
bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
Cc: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com>,
Nanog Mailing list <nanog@merit.edu>, Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20050428084756.GA11339@sources.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
--On 28 April 2005 10:47 +0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
wrote:
> This is no longer true (for several years). Corporations ("Sector
> members") can now join (ITU is the only UN organization which does
> that). See
> http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/mm/scripts/mm.list?_search=SEC
I think Bill is actually correct. ITU is a treaty organization. Only
members of the UN (i.e. countries). ITU-T (and ITU-R, ITU-D) are sector
organizations that telcos can join (AIUI the difference having arisen
when a meaningful difference arose between telco and state monopoly).
However, given the entire organization is run by the ITU, it's fair
to say it is essentially a governmental organization run with some
private sector involvement. Whereas ...
> So, like ICANN, governements and big corporations are represented at
> the ITU. Like ICANN, ordinary users are excluded.
... ICANN is billed as a private sector organization with government
involvement.
Obviously the extent of the involvement of the private sector (and
non-commercial sectors), and the extent to which one likes the ICANN
model are all up for extensive debate, preferably on somewhere other
than this mailing list.
Alex
