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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Wed Apr 27 02:37:20 2005

Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:36:54 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg@netzero.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1114555079@[172.17.1.152]>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 10:38:00PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I think it's absurd.  I expect my water delivery company not to add
> polutants in transit.  I expect my water production company to provide
> clean water.

	er.. bad analogy warning... please take a sample of tap water to 
	an independent lab for analysis...  and find out just what the
	water company is putting into your water.  
	
> This is like asking the phone company to prevent minors from hearing
> swear-words on telephone calls or prevent people from being able to make
> prank phone calls from pay-phones.
> 

	more bad analogies... :)

> 
> Owen
> >- ferg

	that said, if you don't want your ISP to diddle your packets,
	may i suggest IPSEC?

--bill


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