[80180] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 27 01:44:01 2005
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:42:53 -0700
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>,
"Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <bb0e440a050426202462c7a797@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Why do ISPs owe this to their customers. I expect my ISP to deliver
packets sent to me, and, to pass along packets I send out. That is
the sum total of what I expect from my ISP, and, it's what my contract
says is supposed to happen. Where does this belief that when user A
at company Y sends a packet full of garbage to user B ad company Z
the ISP at either end is responsible for the contents of the packet?
That's like making the phone company responsible for the content of
a conversation or saying that Safeway distribution is responsible
for the content of Arrowhead spring water bottles that reach Safeway
stores.
Owen
--On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:54 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian=20
<ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/27/05, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) <fergdawg@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>> I've been there -- I know how I feel about it -- but I'd love
>> to know how ISP operations folk feel about this.
>>
>
> He's right. ISPs owe it to their users, if not to the rest of the
> Internet community, to do this.
> A lot of it is also part of the MAAWG bcps on spam (though the BCPs,
> when implemented, will do a lot more good than just cut down on spam)
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