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Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Stewart)
Sun Apr 24 04:23:26 2005

Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:22:58 -0700
From: Bill Stewart <nonobvious@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Bill Stewart <nonobvious@gmail.com>
To: Jason Slagle <raistlin@tacorp.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20050419100351.N7225@mail.tacorp.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


> .... PPPoEoL2TPoIPSECoLANEoIPV6oRFC1149.....
What a bunch of mean nasty ugly stuff.
My Sonic.net connection is simply rfc1483 (IP packets on an ATM PVC
with a standard SNAP header), and I think that's probably what SBC is
delivering them.
AT&T's business SDSL and IDSL circuits also work that way, and I think
our business ADSL does too (definitely over Covad, but there may be
some locations we can't get that); I don't know what the AT&T Consumer
folks do, but it's nice to have a design that Just Works, and that
leaves the IP issues to the ISP and doesn't have the ILEC/CLEC messing
with MTU sizes for no good reason.
                  Bill

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