[80059] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Service providers that NAT their whole network?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Payne)
Fri Apr 22 14:55:55 2005
In-Reply-To: <20050422171458.GA25280@semihuman.com>
Cc: Scott Call <scall@devolution.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: John Payne <john@sackheads.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:55:25 -0400
To: Chris Woodfield <rekoil@semihuman.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Apr 22, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Chris Woodfield wrote:
>
> Apologies for the late reply, but T-Mobile's US GPRS network hands out
> RFC1918 space as well.
Ah, that depends on if you're on WAP, T-Mobile Internet or T-Mobile VPN.
The VPN service is exactly the same as the Internet one, except that it
gives you non-NAT'd address space for VPN compatibility. (APN
internet3.voicestream.com, everything else is the same). Note that
you have to be provisioned on each APN now, you can't jump around like
you used to be able to.
>
> -C
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 01:40:12PM -0700, Scott Call wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Philip Matthews wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A number of IETF documents(*) state that there are some service
>>> providers
>>> that place a NAT box in front of their entire network, so all their
>>> customers get private addresses rather than public address.
>>> It is often stated that these are primarily cable-based providers.
>>
>> In my experience many cellular providers (at least in the US) do this
>> as
>> well. A GPRS connection to Cingular, even from a laptop device, will
>> get
>> a 1918 address. I don't mind since my phone runs linux with no root
>> password (thanks motorola).
>>
>> -Scott
>
