[79995] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Service providers that NAT their whole network?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tom Vest)
Tue Apr 19 23:19:16 2005
In-Reply-To: <bb0e440a05041919574328b126@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>,
Philip Matthews <matthews@nimcatnetworks.com>, nanog@merit.edu
From: Tom Vest <tvest@pch.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:17:40 -0400
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Apr 19, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> One possible reason would be that quite often the people there are not
> very capable at bgp at all .. so someone who's selling them routers
> gives them a static route to their upstream, then they give their
> downstream customers a word doc with a template that assigns the
> downstreams yet another static route ...
I think (or at least I hope) that folks that fit your description are
identified by the registries and routed to the education track before
their applications are approved. I am not (entirely) naive -- and am
quite pleased to have the opportunity to contribute to ongoing
education efforts through APRICOT -- so I am sure that some share of
allocated-but-never-routed ASNs could be explained away as you suggest.
That said, the cases I am obliquely referring to are established, fully
clue-embued enterprises -- some even service providers -- with
competent engineers on staff. I.e., operators that applied for, met
the criteria, and received a public ASN plus IP allocation from an RIR.
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