[79569] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: SORBS Identity theft alert
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (J.D. Falk)
Mon Apr 11 13:39:03 2005
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:38:37 -0700
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <1113203490.29088.39.camel@localhost>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 04/11/05, Andrew D Kirch <trelane@trelane.net> wrote:
> "See more about mailbombing. Mailbombers are spammers. They just aren't
> in it for the money. Or possibly they are. SORBS asks for donations to
> get delisted, and also seeks donations from Subscribers. It is very
> unusual for blacklists to extort money this way."
>
> This also is a blatant mischaracterization, the AHBL relies on donations
> and advertisements on the website to fund it's operational budget,
> spamhaus charges for commercial
> supporthttp://www.spamhaus.org/organization/funding.html .
Charging /users/ of a dnsbl is one thing...charging listees is
another. Some folks here may remember that I've often been a
supporter of *bl operators, but I absolutely cannot support this
particular policy of SORBS. I know Matthew has his heart in the
right place, but he's making a big mistake there and eventually
someone much saner than Dean Anderson will take him to task for
it -- probably in the courts -- and that'll set a precedent
which harms /all/ *bl operators.
As for everything /else/ Dean accuses SORBS of...well, that's
all utter bullshit as usual; pay him no mind, for he will be
unable to return the favor.
--
J.D. Falk As a carpenter bends the seat of a chariot
<jdfalk@cybernothing.org> I bend this frenzy round my heart.
