[79353] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: botted hosts
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Petri Helenius)
Mon Apr 4 15:34:07 2005
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:31:50 +0300
From: Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>,
Nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0504040450570.20748@clifden.donelan.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>Locating bots is relatively easy. If you think that is the hard part, you
>don't understand the problem.
>
>
It's easy to some extent, databases to a few hundred thousand are easy
to collect but going to the millions is harder.
>
>So how do you encourage people to fix their computers, without the press
>writing lots of stories about "evil" ISPs cut off service to grandmother's
>on social security looking at pictures of their grandchildren.
>
>
Experience tells that telling (obviously automatically) the users that
their computer is too unsafe to be on the public internet and it'll stay
that way until they either fix it or change to a less clueful provider
works wonders.
>There are at least 20 million and probably more compromised computers on
>the Internet. Who has a plan to fix them?
>
>
If the nanog readership is a few thousands, that's only ~5-10k for each
of us. Piece of cake. And I still don't buy the number. I might buy 2M.
Pete
