[7934] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: more to add to the list
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul A Vixie)
Sun Mar 2 15:44:48 1997
To: Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson <snpf@netscape.com>
cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Mar 1997 03:54:49 PST."
<199703021154.DAA02137@switchblade.actracorp.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 12:39:28 -0800
From: Paul A Vixie <paul@vix.com>
> My apologies, I don't know if this is appropriate
> or not. I read vix.com/spam, and didn't see
> how to report rogue sites.
For now you just mail to scott@zorch.sf-bay.org. I'll recommend to him
that he set up a more permanent reporting address -- we registered the
abuse.net domain just for this kind of thing, but it's not being used
much yet.
> I've gotten spam from worldnet.att.com four times in the last four days.
Worldnet doesn't run Sendmail, which makes it harder for them to just
upgrade to 8.8.5 (or even 8.8.4) and then to implement the recommendations
in http://www.sendmail.org/antispam.html. However, they are working hard
on turning off outside-to-outside relay support, which unfortunately happens
to be an automated feature of most SMTP server software. Unofficial reports
suggest that some time in mid-March they will be out of the spam relay biz.
Note that in spite of this, I have blackholed their main mail server. I was
getting 10 spams a day through them at one point. I guess the spammers
figured that Worldnet was to big to block. (I guess they were wrong.)
> I've received no response from postmaster, and any mail
> I send back to the site says that the mailbox is full,
> so the message won't be delivered.
Indeed. They're aware of the problem, their mailbox is full of other
complaints.
> So, in future, how do I report a rogue site? Should
> I simply mail scott mueller?
For now, yes. It'll probably show up as report@abuse.net soon, though.
NANOG is not the right place to discuss this. See the usenet newsgroups
related to network abuse.
