[79173] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Golding)
Thu Mar 31 13:37:09 2005
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:35:56 -0500
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding@burtongroup.com>
To: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>, Greg Boehnlein <damin@nacs.net>
Cc: "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg@netzero.net>,
<nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <424B49A7.1060106@ehsco.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On the attack, are we? Its a free market. If folks don't like what
unregulated, non-monopoly ISPs are doing, they can go elsewhere.
I dislike the moralizing. This is business, not a battle of good vs evil.
- Dan
On 3/30/05 7:51 PM, "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com> wrote:
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> On 3/30/2005 11:27 AM, Greg Boehnlein wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
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>>> Intersting article on ISP issues regarding competitive
>>> VoIP services:
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>>> http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?site=3Dlightreading&doc_id=3D71020
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>> Hmm.. I was quoted in it.
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> Oh good, maybe you can clarify some things:
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> | =B3As much as I want to see VOIP survive and thrive, I also don't want
> | to bear the additional cost of my customers choosing to use a
> | competitor's VOIP service over my own,=B2 says Greg Boehnlein, who
> | operates Cleveland, Ohio-based ISP N2Net.
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> | =B3Without control of the last mile, we're screwed,=B2 Boehnlein says,
> | =B3which is why I can identify with Clearwire's decision and say
> | =8Cmore power to them=B9.=B2
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> Do you also block NNTP so that customers have to use your servers?
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> And if some other service used higher cumulative bandwidth than VoIP (say=
,
> Apple's music service) and didn't ~reimburse you for the use of your
> network, would|do you block that service too? For that matter, do you
> block the various P2P systems that don't make money but that generate
> massive traffic?
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> What don't you plan on blocking exactly?
