[79112] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Vonage Hits ISP Resistance
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Boehnlein)
Wed Mar 30 20:42:17 2005
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:41:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Greg Boehnlein <damin@nacs.net>
To: Brad Knowles <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
Cc: Bill Nash <billn@billn.net>, "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>,
"Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <fergdawg@netzero.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <p0620071ebe70ff42cc76@[10.0.1.3]>
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 5:06 PM -0800 2005-03-30, Bill Nash wrote:
>
> > I find this to be entertaining, since as a VOIP consumer, I'm
> > reimbursing my ISP for the cost of the traffic as part of my monthly
> > tithe.
>
> No, that's not true. Not if your ISP has oversold their upstream
> bandwidth, and a lot of people start using VOIP.
>
> In that case, your ISP is dependant on keeping you fat, dumb,
> happy, barefoot, and pregnant in the kitchen, taking whatever
> semidigested pabulum they choose to feed you, and if you start
> getting uppity by actually thinking for yourself and using something
> like VOIP, then they're going to have to bitch-slap you back into
> your rightful place under their thumb.
That is fairly entertaining. Perhaps you could provide the financial
breakdown for ANY DSL business model that doesn't rely on
over-subscription?
Q. How many, full-on 6 Meg DSL subscribers can you put on a 45 meg ATM
connection without oversubscription? ;)
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