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Re: Big providers use NAT to squeeze little ISPs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Wed Feb 26 21:33:48 1997

From: Karl Denninger  <karl@Mcs.Net>
To: alan@mindvision.com
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:04:42 -0600 (CST)
Cc: karl@Mcs.Net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199702270103.TAA08019@anka.mindvision.com> from "Alan Hannan" at Feb 26, 97 07:03:33 pm


Keep the ad-hominen and invective out of the discussion.

I will return to talk about this when you have restarted your question with
an understanding of the above.

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> 
>   Karl,
> 
>   Will you please explain to me how it is that the evil greedy
>   conspiring bastards use their size dishonestly to slant the
>   playing field?  Please list the set of differentiated dishonest
>   benefits.
> 
>   Besides, I was always under the impression that it wasn't the size
>   of the money that mattered, but rather how you moved it.
> 
>   -alan
> 
> > >   Karl,
> > > 
> > >   Sometimes I think you work for the Yoyodyne Corporation
> > >   from some movie or another.
> > > 
> > >   Tell you what.
> > > 
> > >   You watch the capitalist system of our country reward
> > >   companies that utilize new technology to encourage better service.
> > 
> > I happen to like that model.  A lot.
> > 
> > The problem is, lots of people like to slant the playing field so that only
> > the guys on the top of the money pile can play in the same theatre, and
> > everyone else is relegated to the bottom.
> > 
> > There are some benefits of size that really are honestly earned.  Then there
> > are those which are just plain improper (at minimum).
> > 
> > The trick is to differentiate between them.
> 


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