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Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Todd Vierling)
Tue Mar 1 13:18:38 2005

Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 13:14:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org>
To: Michael.Dillon@radianz.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <OFEF8C6222.DF797677-ON80256FB7.003FB318-80256FB7.0041047F@radianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 Michael.Dillon@radianz.com wrote:

> > I'm skeptical that a model that only sort of works for under 30K ASNs
> > and maybe 1K bilateral peering agreements for the *really* big Tier-1s
> > won't scale to a world that has 40M+ .com domains and probably a million
> > SMTP servers.
>
> Well the way that I see this scaling is that you have a core of email
> service providers who are members of the Internet Mail Services
> Association.

The business world simply doesn't work that way.  Ever heard of the phrase
"Standards are great -- there's so many of them to choose from!"?

> These core operators sign up to a multilateral mail peering agreement and
> provide email transit services for other operators.
>
> The next layer is the non-core email service providers who have bilateral
> mail peering agreements with one or more core email transport providers.

Contrary to what you said before, this *IS* the UUCP model in a nutshell.
It has been done before, it does not scale, and it does not fit the way
business works today.

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-- Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org> <tv@pobox.com>

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