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Re: High volume WHOIS queries

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Nash)
Tue Mar 1 09:48:50 2005

Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 06:47:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Nash <billn@billn.net>
To: Paul G <paul@rusko.us>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <05a801c51e6a$05376410$0200a8c0@rusko>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Paul G wrote:

>>> point - they're trying to restrict the practicality of
>>> attempting to harvest
>>> the data and an open to the public whois server with no
>>> access restrictions
>>> would defeat that.
>
>> I don't know that this is the case, I suspect it's
>> resource management. If the database is getting
>> slaughtered by applications on uncontrolled auto pilot,
>> it's unusable for the rest of us.
>
> well, the OP quoted a portion of the aup that requires bulk
> whois data recipients to take measures to prevent harvesting,
> so i presume that arin does care about that and, in fact, that
> consideration is likely the reason they declined to permit the
> OP to run *his own* whoisd off of his *local* copy of the data.

If memory serves, that restriction didn't appear until spam became a 
problem. The verbiage in the AUP is there to give ARIN recourse in the 
event that some spammer, and it has happened, runs a harvest against 
domain names or serialized NIC handles to seed a spam source.

- billn

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