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Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Edward B. Dreger)
Sat Feb 26 20:35:38 2005

Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 01:35:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Edward B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To: just me <matt@snark.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.61.0502251511150.29345@pants.snark.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


jm> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:13:04 -0800 (PST)
jm> From: just me

jm>   Internal users:  With AUTH - correlate message with authenticated user,
jm>   then forbid mail transmission for them only.  I'd rather do that than
jm>   slog through RADIUS logs.  But, hey, maybe if I had more free time...

jm> Increasing the detail of an audit trail doesnt mean anyone will
jm> automatically use the information in an effective manner.

Fingerprints and DNA analysis are equally useless, I suppose.


jm> Without auth, most ISPs could correlate abuse behavior between MTA
jm> logs and RADIUS logs, if they cared. Most don't. SMTP AUTH won't
jm> change that.

I guess it's probably fallacious to argue from the viewpoint of ISPs
caring.  Please pardon my Freudian slip.


Eddy
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