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Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steve Sobol)
Wed Feb 16 01:50:15 2005

Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:49:53 -0800
From: Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
To: Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@NetBSD.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20050216021655.GB12411@NetBSD.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:

> What benefit, exactly, do you see to allowing unauthenticated mail
> submission on a different port than the default SMTP port?

The relevant RFC says that port 587 must be used for authenticated connections 
ONLY.

> Similarly, what harm, exactly, do you see to allowing authenticated
> mail submission on port 25?

I think the idea was that Port 25 must also allow unauthenticated connections 
from foreign MTAs. Port 587 is designed to be used only to relay mail for 
authenticated users of the server in question, because outgoing Port 25 
connections are so widely blocked by large ISPs.

> What will actually give us some progress on spam and on usability
> issues is requiring authentication for mail submission.

That's the way it's *supposed* to work now. What actually will give us progress 
on spam is a complete rewriting of the SMTP protocol, but quite frankly, I'm 
not holding my breath.

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