[77907] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: The Cidr Report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hannigan, Martin)
Mon Feb 14 08:36:49 2005
From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
To: "'Hank Nussbacher'" <hank@mail.iucc.ac.il>,
Philip Smith <pfs@cisco.com>
Cc: Nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:28:29 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> Hank Nussbacher
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:26 AM
> To: Philip Smith
> Cc: Nanog
> Subject: Re: The Cidr Report
>
>
>
> At 10:27 AM 14-02-05 +1000, Philip Smith wrote:
>
> Well said. At NANOG you get the clueful people cuz they at
> least knew to
> come. That is a start. But there are hundreds of ISPs out
> there who don't
> have a clue. RIPE realized this without having to do a
> membership poll and
> rightly so, goes and does training where it is needed (and
> believe me - I
> am their biggest critic and all-around pain in the ass when
> it comes to
> their expenses as Leo and Rob can attest).
>
> NANOG is not the place to do it. ARIN, as part of their
> overhead should do
> an east coast, west coast and Chicago area tutorial at least once a
> year. And guess what - most of the training material has
> already been
> written by the other RIRs.
Am I misreading the report? That doesn't look like a list of
clueless people.
Just because another RIR does something doesn't mean we
should automatically assume ARIN should too. This is a
different area with different dynamics.
Regardless, you could always propose this to ARIN instead of
NANOG. :-)
-M<