[77876] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The Cidr Report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Philip Smith)
Sun Feb 13 00:49:37 2005
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:49:01 +1000
From: Philip Smith <pfs@cisco.com>
To: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0502121453300.19794-100000@server2.tcw.telecomplete.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Hi Stephen,
Stephen J. Wilcox said the following on 13/02/2005 00:58:
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> that applies to medium and large providers
> too reading this list - how often do they actually check what prefixes they are
> sourcing, from my recent work at a couple of european IXes i had a number of
> folks email me offlist as they hadnt realised til I sent out an email they had
> deaggregation and once it was pointed out they just fixed it.
I don't think many people have the time to check customers deaggregation
- it doesn't obviously help with their company's business/profits
therefore isn't on the radar. Or is a job done when they have time. Like
you, Hank and I (amongst many others) have spent quite a bit of time
pointing out possible leakages to providers - and most have been very
polite and appreciative of the advice. I've had a few negative
reactions, mostly questioning why this is any of my business. :(
> so to repeat my earlier suggestion - if transit providers, particularly the
> larger ones setup scripts to notify their customers daily/weeks of routing
> deaggregation do you think we might gain some traction in educating and fixing
> this?
Interesting thought - yes that might help, but then how many providers
would be willing to do this? The CIDR report website is available,
anyone can pop their ASN into the tool there, and they can figure out
what needs to be aggregated. Should the tool be packaged up as something
anyone can run from their web page, or a cron job? What would customers
think about this if their upstreams do it? Or should some third party do
it, like Geoff and I post our respective regional reports and
aggregation summaries...? How would this differ from spam - and anyway,
how would be get in touch with every ISP on the Internet... etc...
philip
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