[77812] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: IRC Bot list (cross posting)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Nash)
Wed Feb 9 02:25:39 2005
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 00:31:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Nash <billn@billn.net>
To: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <A206819EF47CBE4F84B5CB4A303CEB7A24228A@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
> Bill, haven't we been here before? :)
>
> There's TWO places that are doing this botnet stuff and
> the NANOG AUP discourages cross posting.
>
> I for one certainly don't want yet another list full of
> botnet stuff.
And I'm not subscribed to either. Yet, I've no less than a /19 of space
under my purview and I don't believe that publishing botnet lists in the
manner that has been done is either off topic, or off charter. Some of us,
as hosting providers or similiar entities, have network costs to keep to a
minimum. For those of us with security concerns, a heads up to
compromised hosts within our bailiwick will *always* be appreciated.
Yes, we've been here before. I'm not sure what the view is like from your
horse, but I imagine it's very different from mine, since my job security
is based on performance, not monopoly backing. This kind of topical
suppression is as bad as draconian moderation. In the years I've been
subscribed to nanog, I've taken a very simple stance to threads I'm not
interested in: I ignored them. I highly suggest you do the same, because
frankly, I'm rapidly tiring of your condescension. What exactly is it that
makes your viewpoint more important than mine? Based on the simple
evidence that you're literate, I'm going to guess that you can read, and
delete, an accurately described thread by interpreting the subject line.
Various persons put forth some amount of effort to, graciously, give other
operators a heads up to the ongoing/potential abuse of their networks, and
you're concerned about topical relevance? Why aren't you, in the least,
THANKING them for their efforts? Maybe it's because these thousands of
drones are being used to pump out spam across the internet, which may
require (at some point) some form of domain registration at the end site
pushing whatever product, which at later trickles into Verisign's coffers?
If you're not going to be part of a productive solution, do us a favor and
stop getting in the way of people actually trying to do something useful.
- billn
