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RE: Time to check the rate limits on your mail servers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hannigan, Martin)
Thu Feb 3 17:48:52 2005

From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
To: "'J.D. Falk'" <jdfalk@cybernothing.org>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:46:03 -0500 
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of
> J.D. Falk
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:35 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Time to check the rate limits on your mail servers
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/03/05, "Miller, Mark" <mark.miller@qwest.com> wrote: 
> 
> >   How come it is always about controlling the symptoms and not the
> > illness?  The vast majority of these
> > "spam drones" are compromised WINDOWS machines.  If the 
> operating system
> > and dominant email applications so easily allows the users' 
> machines to
> > be taken over by a third party, then there is something 
> wrong with the
> > operating system and the mail applications.  It occurs to 
> me that the
> > solution is not to limit the range of destruction, but to defuse the
> > bomb.  Perhaps the focus for a solution should move up the model to
> > layer 7.
> 
> 	Upgrading and/or replacing the OS for every Windows user on the
> 	planet is an educational issue.  Keeping the network viable
> 	while you figure out how to do that is an operational issue.


..or a cost issue. Most of these users are people who have
decided not to spend the $40 to defend their machine at home. 


-M< 

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