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Re: Time to check the rate limits on your mail servers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Raymond Dijkxhoorn)
Thu Feb 3 10:29:00 2005

Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:21:37 +0100 (CET)
From: Raymond Dijkxhoorn <raymond@prolocation.net>
To: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
Cc: Joel Perez <jperez@numind.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <4202405E.7040106@linuxbox.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Hi!

>> If a pro cannot clean it out safely, then i cannot imagine our typical 
>> homeuser would be able to... and with some luck he installs a firewall and 
>> antivirus next time, after reinstalling his system for the 4th or 5th time.

> You may want to check out some AT (Anti-Trojan) software such as The Cleaner 
> and BOclean.

You will never be sure you have picked up all, only the known ones. For a 
compromised system, unless running tripwire or something, reinstall!

Its a nice start, but it also tell people i am safe, and they dont know 
for sure. Seeing our abuse department getting tickets over and over about 
the same customers its a fact that they just simple are not able to clean 
it out easilly. Then its better to instert foot (CD) and start all over.

Bye,
Raymond

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