[76916] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Proposed list charter/AUP change?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ejay Hire)
Tue Jan 4 18:38:40 2005
From: "Ejay Hire" <ejay.hire@isdn.net>
To: "'Bill Nash'" <billn@billn.net>,
"'Steve Sobol'" <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
Cc: "'Susan Harris'" <srh@merit.edu>, <nanog@merit.edu>,
"'Betty Burke'" <bburke@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:34:38 -0600
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501040922390.30608@bacchus.billn.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I second this request.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]
On
> Behalf Of Bill Nash
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:51 AM
> To: Steve Sobol
> Cc: Susan Harris; nanog@merit.edu; Betty Burke
> Subject: Proposed list charter/AUP change?
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Steve Sobol wrote:
> > Susan keeps on claiming spam is offtopic for Nanog, yet
the
> AUP/Charter/FAQ
> > don't mention spam other than telling us not to ask "I'm
> being spammed, how
> > can I make it stop?"
> >
> > If it's flat-out offtopic, no matter what, or if the
> majority of list members
> > don't want to talk about it on the list, why hasn't the
FAQ
> been updated? Or
> > does Merit just want us to try to guess what is
offtopic?
> >
>
> Spam represents a significant percentage of email traffic,
and its
> delivery is increasingly via trojaned dsl/broadband
devices.
> Even spam
> delivered from quasi-legitimate sources is usually an
abuse
> of resources
> that some NSP/ISP is paying for. Discussion of functional
> spam control at
> the ISP level, I think, is absolutely on topic for a list
of
> this scope.
> Please note, that I say 'functional'. Random complaints
would
> obviously
> not fall into this category.
>
> Examples would include:
> Working enterprise-scale spam filtering (Hourly mail
volume
> measured in
> thousands)
> Discussion of edge/core SMTP filtering to curtail spam
sources.
> Policy discussions for handling domestic and international
> spam sources.
> Implementation, or requests for implementation, of SPF and
similiar
> controls.
> Inter-network cooperation for handling large scale issues.
>
> I think this last is pretty much exactly what a list like
> this is for, be
> it spam, regional power outages, BGP shenanigans, or
> widespread squirrel
> detonations.
>
> - billn