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Re: Anycast 101

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Fri Dec 17 12:05:13 2004

To: crist.clark@globalstar.com
Cc: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>,
	Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>,
	NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:18:12 PST."
             <41C233D4.3010105@globalstar.com> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:04:17 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:18:12 PST, Crist Clark said:

> Into a UDP response. A resolver will recieve the first 512 bytes of the
> truncated response and may then use TCP to get the complete response...
> unless there is a firewall blocking 53/tcp in the way. But how often
> does that happpen?

You're new here, aren't you? ;)

It happens *all* *the* *time* (probably just as often as sites that block
all ICMP including 'frag needed' and wonder why PMTU Discovery breaks and
connections hang).

The *real* operational problem is that almost 100% of the time that there's
a firewall blocking 53/tcp, the person running the firewall is (a) unaware
that it's blocking it and (b) doesn't even realize that DNS *can* use TCP....

Quite often, there's even a "(c) they don't even know they have a firewall" just
to make things really interesting.

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