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Re: verizon.net and other email grief

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Thu Dec 16 08:28:25 2004

In-Reply-To: <20041216115219.GA446@reifa-wave.karrenberg.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:27:52 +0100
To: Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On 16-dec-04, at 12:52, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:

>> That's definitely true, though it can be used successfully -- if 
>> there's a
>> very reliable kill-switch to withdraw the advertisement in a moment, 
>> or some
>> kind of fallback mechanism in place to handle gross failures.

> Using this as the *only* remedy for unavailability of an anycast 
> instance
> is insufficient given the speed at which bad news travels in BGP. You 
> want
> to have the service available at multiple addresses with each of those
> engineered as differently as possible.

And that's exactly why UltraDNS' treatment of .org is evil. I really 
don't understand why people with .org domains aren't complaining louder 
about this.

There are also other risks associated with anycast. See discussions on 
the IETF list earlier this year: about anycast + per packet load 
balancing ("[dnsop] Re: Root Anycast (fwd)", early october) and about 
root anycast ("13 Root Server Limitation", may).


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