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Re: no whois info ?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter John Hill)
Thu Dec 9 19:50:14 2004

Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:49:08 -0800
From: Peter John Hill <peterjhill@cmu.edu>
To: Jeff Rosowski <rosowskij@ie.ymp.gov>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20041209104926.R32144@infeng.ymp.gov>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Jeff Rosowski wrote:
> 
>>> shell1% whois vestigial3had.com
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> No match for "VESTIGIAL3HAD.COM".
>>> What gives ?  How can their be no whois info anywhere ?

How about the following... (note that just because someone is using 
someone as their authoritative name server doesn't mean that the other 
people (in this case kronuna.biz) have anything to do with it...

[peterh@localhost ~]$ dig ns vestigial3had.com
<snip>
;; ANSWER SECTION:
vestigial3had.com.      172800  IN      NS      ns1.kronuna.biz.
vestigial3had.com.      172800  IN      NS      ns2.kronuna.biz.

[peterh@localhost ~]$ whois kronuna.biz
[Querying whois.neulevel.biz]
[whois.neulevel.biz]
Domain Name:                                 KRONUNA.BIZ
Domain ID:                                   D8290016-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar:                        TUCOWS INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID:                69
Domain Status:                               ok
Registrant ID:                               TU9XLFHXRK2QTZCE
Registrant Name:                             domain administrator
Registrant Organization:                     Tehillimzeiger Pushkaya
Registrant Address1:                         Suite M-242, Christamar 43-B
Registrant Address2:                         Avda. De las Naciones Unidas
Registrant City:                             Puerto Banus - Marbella
Registrant State/Province:                   Malaga
Registrant Postal Code:                      29660
Registrant Country:                          Spain
Registrant Country Code:                     ES
Registrant Phone Number:                     +371.7338359
Registrant Email:                            dljans@pisem.net

<snip>




>>
>> Read NANOG archives - Verisign now allows immediate (well, within 
>> about 10
>> minutes) updates of .com/.net zones (also same for .biz) while whois data
>> is still updated once or twice a day. That means if spammer registers new
>> domain he'll be able to use it immediatly and it'll not yet show up in
>> whois (and so not be immediatly identifiable to spam reporting tools) -
>> and spammers are in fact using this "feature" more and more!
> 
> 
> You can also make whois information private, usually for an additional fee.
> 


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