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Re: What is SPAM? - was Re: Legislative Relief - was Re: Motion...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin Newton)
Wed Oct 18 14:40:35 1995

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 02:28:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Newton <justin@rainbow.dgsys.com>
To: Dave Siegel <dsiegel@rtd.com>
cc: Tim Bass <bass@dune.silkroad.com>, postel@isi.edu, com-priv@lists.psi.com,
        nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199510170312.UAA10716@seagull.rtd.com>

On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Dave Siegel wrote:

> > > I don't think we really want any more laws that criminalize ill defined
> > > acts.
> > 
> > Agreed.  Until the net community defines what is spam and other unacceptable
> > messaging, we have no foundation to build on.  Can anyone define concisely
> > what exactly is 'spam' ?  Or this this possible?
> 
> It is a meat-like substance which is delivered in a tin can.  It can be quite
> good for breakfast with eggs if you can stand the grease content.  
> 
> ;-)  Sorry, couldn't resist.
> 
> spam:  Any posting which contains an advertisement of a product.
> posting:  Any peice of electronic material found either in a UseNet NewsGroup,
> 	  public mailing list (listserv), or a private mailing list.
> 
> I really don't see what the big deal is in all this.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Siegel			President, RTD Systems & Networking, Inc.
> (520)623-9663			Systems Consultant -- Unix, LANs, WANs, Cisco
> dsiegel@rtd.com			User Tracking & Acctg -- "Written by an ISP, 
> http://www.rtd.com/						for an ISP."
> 

Is every email you send then a spam since it contains an ad for UTA?  I 
don't think it is, but it is according to your definitions.  IMHO, a bad 
definition.  I am more favorable to the one that news.admin.* uses where 
anything which is posted to over X number of groups is spam (or velveeta 
if it follows a slightly different rule).  SPAM should not be content 
based.  If I sent out a copy of the bible to every single user on the 
internet (quite a feat to get the address list), I would consider that a 
spam, and I need not be advertising any product.  Hell, if I sent 
everyone on the internet the letter "a" it would probably crash a few 
machines.  So, what's the definition?



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