[75908] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Henning Brauer)
Sun Nov 28 08:13:49 2004
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:17 +0100
From: Henning Brauer <hb-nanog@bsws.de>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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* Daniel Roesen <dr@cluenet.de> [2004-11-28 14:05]:
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 01:21:05PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
> > * Cliff Albert <cliff@oisec.net> [2004-11-28 13:13]:
> > > Therefore I also agree with daniel that there is not really a problem
> > > with the 1 ASN == 1 IPv6 Prefix.
> >
> > unless I miss something in that proposal that means that we'll see a
> > dramatic increase in ASNs - I mean, it is not like only organizations
> > with an ASN assigned have v4 space now. If they have their portable
> > address space now, why should they suddenly accept that they had to
> > renumber when changing providers?
>
> Because they would have to _qualify_ for an ASN first. And the rules
> for that are sufficiently strict - you have to prove a distinct routing
> policy. That means either multihoming two at least two upstreams, or
> upstream plus peering. The shops who have only legacy PI space announced
> by their single static routed upstream won't qualify. Plain simple.
there are a lot of organizations now having PI without having an ASN
and beeing multihomed. a transition to v6 with this policy would make
things much worse for them, so why should they?
on the other hand, 1 ASN -> 1 v6 prefix does not necessarily mean 1 v6
prefix -> 1 ASN. might work out.
> The convenience factor _is_ already outlawed.
true for new allocations, but there is a gigantic installed base, and
making their situation worse isn't exactly helping in getting v6
deployed.
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