[75821] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Thu Nov 25 08:04:41 2004
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <A281C7AA-3EE0-11D9-B165-000A95CD987A@muada.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:03:50 +0100
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On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 13:50 +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> On 25-nov-04, at 10:27, Jeroen Massar wrote:
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> >> 200 locations doesn't seem that off to me..
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> > That is exactly the right way to count ;)
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> > Which kind of makes the point, that they deserve the /32
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> Well, apparently RIPE thinks they do, so there must be some piece of=20
> information that I'm not privvy to.
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> However, in the absense of that particular piece of information, I have=20
> a hard time seeing how the BBC qualifies for a /32. Last time I=20
> checked, they weren't an ISP. 200 sites doesn't qualify you for a /32:=20
> it qualifies you for a /48 (jusst like one site does). That's 65536=20
> subnets =3D ~300 subnets per site. If that's not enough, perhaps a /47 or=
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> /46 is in order, or maybe, just maybe a /40 =3D a /48 per site. But a /32=
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> is ridiculous: this allows for 4 billion subnets (20 million per site).
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> Here is a quote from the "IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment=20
> Policy" (http://www.iana.org/ipaddress/ipv6-allocation-policy-26jun02=20
> ):
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> 5.1.1. Initial allocation criteria
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> To qualify for an initial allocation of IPv6 address space, an
> organization must:
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> a) be an LIR;
Check, as long as they pay the fees ;)
> b) not be an end site;
Check, the one who gets the allocation only handles the connectivity for
the sites in c)
> c) plan to provide IPv6 connectivity to organizations to which it
> will assign /48s, by advertising that connectivity through its
> single aggregated address allocation; and
Check, all the different organizations.
I btw got a very nice tree structure which details it mostly, eek, it is
scary, good luck to management there.
> d) have a plan for making at least 200 /48 assignments to other
> organizations within two years.
Check, they come quite far already. btw, it is a *plan*, you don't have
to have it now. And tell me, which company/organization is not planning
on expanding a lot and either annihilating or creating some other
organizations under their wings in the process? :)
And I hope some people now realize how they should be counting...
Greets,
Jeroen
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