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Re: Just got on this thing (perhaps very belatedly) - root server trouble?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ollie)
Mon Feb 17 20:49:15 1997

From: "Jeffrey C. Ollie" <jeff@ollie.clive.ia.us>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:35:15 CST."
             <199702172335.RAA19906@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> 
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:13:56 -0600

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On Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:35:15 -0600 (CST), karl@mcs.net writes:
>
>We've been running on eDNS now for something like seven months, and have
>had ZERO operational incidents recorded by our NOC which have been related 
>to root server failures or problems.

Somehow, I'm not impressed. Say, shouldn't the inability of any AOL customers
to send email to user@domain.audio be considered an operational problem?
And shouldn't "root servers" have recursive queries turned off?:

; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> @192.160.127.86 worf.netins.net 
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      worf.netins.net, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
worf.netins.net.        21h38m10s IN A  167.142.225.4

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
NETINS.NET.             1d1h56m48s IN NS  NS.MCI.NET.
NETINS.NET.             1d1h56m48s IN NS  NS2.NETINS.NET.
NETINS.NET.             1d1h56m48s IN NS  NS1.NETINS.NET.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
NS.MCI.NET.             9h26m20s IN A   204.70.128.1
NS2.NETINS.NET.         20h24m56s IN A  167.142.225.6
NS1.NETINS.NET.         1d10h22m52s IN A  167.142.225.5

;; Total query time: 5097 msec
;; FROM: vis-admin.dmacc.cc.ia.us to SERVER: 192.160.127.86
;; WHEN: Mon Feb 17 18:51:56 1997
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 33  rcvd: 164

And what happens if usage of the eDNS root servers goes up? The eDNS
root servers don't appear to be very well situated network-wise,
either. It looks like all of them are in North America. The IANA has
at least one non-North American root server (i.root-servers.net).

>Give it a shot folks.  I know lots of you have political dislikes for the
>eDNS concept and implementation, but if your nameservice is unreliable now,
>having trouble, and you can *FIX IT* for your customers by using eDNS
>instead, isn't finding and using a better mousetrap what your customers 
>all pay for you?

Some fix.

>Think about it!


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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:13:56 -0600
From: "Jeffrey C. Ollie" <jeff@ollie.clive.ia.us>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:35:15 CST."
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Subject: Re: Just got on this thing (perhaps very belatedly) - root server trouble? 
To: nanog@merit.edu

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