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Re: I want my own IPs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Golding)
Sun Nov 14 17:20:00 2004

Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 17:19:26 -0500
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding@burtongroup.com>
To: James Laszko <jamesl@pcipros.com>, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>,
	Philip Lavine <source_route@yahoo.com>, nanog <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <01EB7C28E9DF0B4FBD67D44A32F742830572DA@sandcaexch01.pcipros.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



This is really not true, and folks who don't deal with ARIN need to know it.

One's ability to deal with ARIN has nothing to do with industry standing or
having a sparkling personality. Nor does it have to do with being a
representative of a large company. Even ARIN AC members seem to have no
special pull with the Help Desk - they apply their rules with admirable
evenhandedness. 

Sometimes you may not agree with the rules, but as long as you play within
them, there are no problems. If you don't like them, go to an ARIN meeting
and work out some new ones.

BTW, if, by "interesting", you mean "courteous and generally reasonable,
considering the number of people trying to deceive them", you would be
correct. Remember - lots of folks lie to them for a variety of reasons. If
they are sticklers for documentation, its not because they are being
difficult.

Of course, those network "engineers" who are allergic to documentation will
find dealing with ARIN to be impossible. They will also find
troubleshooting, capacity planning, and many other tasks to be quite
difficult.

- Dan

On 11/12/04 2:13 PM, "James Laszko" <jamesl@pcipros.com> wrote:

> 
> I'm just glad we were able to get our allocation from them.  If I hadn't
> been in this business for a decade and didn't have the wonderful
> personality 
> that I have, it might have been impossible. <g>
> 
> Those people over at the ARIN Helpdesk are an interesting crowd....
> 
> 
> 
> James
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: James Laszko
> Cc: Bill Woodcock; Philip Lavine; nanog
> Subject: RE: I want my own IPs
> 
>> Good to know.  I always though it was a /21 or /20.  I'm pretty sure
>> ARIN rules change with the weather, though.
> 
> no.  it's the downdraft from the black helicopters
> 
> randy
> 

-- 
Daniel Golding
Network and Telecommunications Strategies
Burton Group



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