[75510] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Nov 14 04:37:21 2004
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 01:36:48 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>, Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <018901c4c9b0$7b7dde10$6801a8c0@stephen>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
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I believe that to be true. In fact, I don't think Paul's connections=20
probably
made it particularly easier for him to get his space to any extent other=20
than
he might have some level of established credibility for the claims made
in his justification. (i.e. his honest may be a bit less suspect than
someone unknown to the RIR staff).
Owen
--On Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:32 PM -0600 Stephen Sprunk=20
<stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>
> Thus spake "Paul Vixie" <vixie@vix.com>
>> iljitsch@muada.com (Iljitsch van Beijnum) writes:
>>> Wow, IPv6 misinformation is reaching unprecendented heights here on
>>> NANOG...
>>
>> yes. for example, you wrote...
>>
>>> There is currently no PI in IPv6 unless you're an internet exchange or
>>> a root server.
>>
>> ...but i really do think of 2001:4f8::/32 as PI, even though ISC is
>> neither
>> an IX nor a rootserver. (f-root has its own /48, which is something
>> else.)
>
> So you're claiming that any IPv6 PI applicant without your political
> connections to the IESG, ARIN, IANA, etc. can get a /32? I don't know
> exactly how many subnets/hosts ISC has, but I seriously doubt ISC could
> even get a PI /48 if you weren't buddies with the folks making allocation
> decisions.
>
> Most companies do not have the advantages you apparently take for
> granted; the IETF thus far has been adamant that only ISPs will get PI
> space, no matter how big an end-user site may be, exceptions for the
> IETF/IANA leadership's employers notwithstanding.
>
> S
>
> Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
> CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
> K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
--=20
If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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