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Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Fri Nov 12 12:06:45 2004

From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1100249771@imac-en0.delong.sj.ca.us>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:06:05 +0100
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



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On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 08:56 -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Hmmm....It walks like a duck:
> 	Can be advertised to any v6 ISP.
> Talks like a duck:
> 	Does not have to be returned to ISP when changing transit providers.
> Floats like a duck:
> 	Provides globally unique v6 addresses to said organization
>=20
> Must be made of wood and so it must be a witch.

I was almost expecting you to start screaming "ding dong the witch is
dead" in relation to IPv6 or something ;)

> I don't care whether you want to call it PI space or not, the bottom line
> is that it has all the same practical uses and effect as PI space, and,
> this is exactly what the real world is likely to do with v6 for any
> organization that wants to multihome without renumbering.  They'll get
> an AS and they'll get a /32, and, suddenly, each department within the
> company will become a "customer" of the IT-ISP department.

Fortunately there are 'only' 65k ASN's, thus that would mean only 65k
routes in the routing table, which should be quite practical. Seeing
only ~650 routes now I don't see that happening that soon, especially
with the slowness of deployment of IPv6 in the US, though it is catching
on ;). Left to wonder though what happens when we run out of ASN's,
32bit ones?

> I'm not saying this is clean, friendly, nice, whatever.  However, it is
> what people are really going to do with the current v6 address allocation
> policies.

As those policies are decided upon by the membership, feed your input to
ARIN/RIPE/APNIC/LACNIC...

Greets,
 Jeroen


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