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Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Nov 9 16:17:09 2004

To: Jerry Eyers <jeyers@sloancc.net>
Cc: bsdusr@gmail.com, "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:14:51 EST."
             <4191CDFB.00000B.01076@11IBM27> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:15:41 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:14:51 EST, Jerry Eyers said:

> "Get a firewall" is not a valid response when you have lusers
> to drop the latest netgear whatever onto their PC and dial
> to some provider somewhere.  Your firewall is useless to
> protect that segment.  In many cases NAT is the ONLY
> protection you end up with in this scenario, a scenario that
> is far to common in the corporate world.

And NAT does what, exactly, to defend you against a PC that has
one interface on the NAT'ed network and one interface "elsewhere/elsewhen"
(be it a netgear, or somebody at the far end of a VPN, or a laptop
that was connected externally, and now is on the corporate LAN)?

There's a *reason* why Bill Cheswick said "A crunchy shell around
a soft, chewy inside"......





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