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Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeroen Massar)
Tue Nov 9 03:44:15 2004

From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: Hank Nussbacher <hank@mail.iucc.ac.il>
Cc: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041109095533.00ad20b8@mail.iucc.ac.il>
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:43:33 +0100
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On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 10:09 +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> At 02:25 PM 08-11-04 -0500, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>=20
> >More to the point, it seems to me the working group is highly
> >enterprise focused, and seems to want to give enterprises what
> >they (think) they want with little concern for how it impacts the
> >global Internet.
>=20
> I think you need to look at one of the authors - Nokia.  Perhaps=20
> 2001:490::/32 and 3FFE:8130::/28 are not enough for what they have in=20
> mind.

Their 6bone space will go away per 6/6/6. That /32 should provide for
65535 /48's, sites that is, which should be enough for most sites. If it
isn't then just request a larger allocation:

http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/tla/
     *  1x /20
      * 1x /21
      * 1x /23
      * 59x /24
      * 1x /27
      * 57x /28
      * 2x /30
      * 1x /31
      * 719x /32
      * 12x /35

The /24 + /28's are 6bone space thus theses will go away in ~1,5 years.
The /35's should be upgraded to /32's, apparently IPv6 is not
interesting enough for these operators though.

>   Perhaps someone from RIPE should sit down with Nokia (and perhaps=20
> all the other cell makers) and find out what they truly want and why thes=
e=20
> IETF drafts solve their problem.  Perhaps just giving them what they want=
=20
> (and think they will need) will make this all go away?

Nokia makes Cellphones, but doesn't provide connectivity (afaik). Telia,
the /20 above, does provide connectivity and they got, for them, enough
space. If someone needs the space then just describe your problem to one
of the RIR's and ask for the allocation. It can be done.

Greets,
 Jeroen


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